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February 10, 2008

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Heather,

I love the Neruda poem (especially his comparison of a cluster of violets to "the gaze of a ruined water nymph sunk in the depths"), and I love that you took on the challenge of trying to cultivate an appreciation for a fragrance note that has, at least up until now (and maybe still), aroused a certain amount of disgust.
I too find that violet can be rather plasticky in some fragrances, and it took me awhile to appreciate them, but now I rather like them in certain scents (the 1970s men's fragrance, Grey Flannel, where violet is paired with oakmoss) and in FM Lipstick Rose, where the violet gives a retro feel to the fragrance. Oddly enough, I thought Lipstick Rose smelled cheap when I first sniffed it, but I think it was the violet weirdness to it that kept drawing me back--and though it's not a scent I would wear often, there are days when I just crave it.

By the way (and changing subjects), I just wanted to tell you that your last post on Assia and Ted Hughes and the Dior perfumes was phenomenal!!

Beatiful, wonderful writing as always Heather! A joy to read.

As for me, even though I very much appreciate the way scent has cultural connotations, I always find myself perturbed that North Americans perceive the scent of violets as grandma-ish. (I first discovered this fact when I was reading Anansi Boys..) Thankfully the smell of violets has no such connotations for me. It is a scent I absolutely adore and Amaiz Moi is one of my favorites - I can't get enough of it when I wear it. (Btw, does the drydown bother you too? It changes dramatically as it develops)

To me violets hold beautiful, sunny memories..Playing in the garden of my paternal home and always being attracted to these little special blooms, stunned at how something so tiny could emit such a powerful scent.

Suzanne I've been saving up all my strength for Lipstick Rose. I have a problematic relationship with roses as well as violets, but there's something about LR that I love and I can't quite get my mind around it just yet. You're so right - it has a weird drawing power. I shouldn't like it at all... and yet... I want to put it on one day and realize that I can't bear to go without it. I'm very happy that you enjoyed the post about Assia. As a fellow book lover (Assia was, too), I hoped it would strike a chord for you.

Divina I think part of the North American perception of violets as old fashioned has to do with the fact that these violet fragrances really were much more popular in a time when the current generation did not yet exist. In those days, people tended to stick with one fragrance or within a fragrance concept (we're so much more polyamorous in our fragrance-loving these days) so when older people consistently wear a fragrance with a certain sweet, powdery smell that actually seemed young and fresh decades ago, we are bound to suffer for the association. Personally, I really enjoy "vintage"-smelling fragrances but I think that as a child, I must have been sitting too close in church to someone who wore a violet scent, and there it sticks in my head, a church memory of a little girl surrounded by very old people. I so wish I could love Aimez-Moi. Maybe I should really try it again... Has Neruda actually made me ready for that?

We love your articles! They are always fresh and with insight. Allow us please to promote little fragrance pool we are running at http://www.fragrantica.com/bestfragrance

Our aim is to find out what the opposite sex prefers. We think that this experiment is an interesting one and that the results might be very diverse, but let us see.

Fragrantica - Hi there, and welcome! I enjoy Fragrantica, too, and have found it a fun and useful research tool (especially the "columns" section!) Your method of linking individual notes to visuals is novel. I've linked to you in the "Read & Research: Perfume" section and am happy to recommend your excellent site further.

Your writing is so thought provoking and so well researched. It's nice to learn something new in such a beautiful format.

I love violets, for the very reason you hate them...grandmother! (well, at least the one I LIKED!) She always had violet pastille candies from France that I would stash in my little pockets (only to be scolded by my mother when they stained the laundry...) To me, the taste of France will always be violets!

Like Divina, I'll take this opportunity to tell you in public how stunning the Assia/Dior post was--I was speechless, clearly.

And I too, thoroughly enjoyed your excavation of your violet hatred. I thought that I disliked violets too, but I dug out my sample of L'Artisan's Vert Violette to wear while reading your wonderful essay and I can't imagine what I found objectionable about it before, unless it's simply that it is altogether too "sweet," not sugary, or syrupy, but uber-feminine, like face powder and lipstick. Still, I am thoroughly enjoying its transparence and find it much more "green" than my memory recalled.

I did once smell Parma violets, at a plant nursery in Austin. I bought them, but the sun promptly killed them off and I've never seen them again. They smelled quite similar to the L'Artisan rendition, but woodier, and without a trace of powder. I was mesmerized.

vida Thank you very much for the lovely comment - I need to get some of those pastilles. I've looked at them in various stores and on the Web but as you can imagine, I never wanted anything violet-smelling to eat before now. I think, though, that I might seek them out the next time I'm in a place with some confectionery variety. Some of the fondest memories of my life are of France, but not of violets - of the sage and rosemary and herbs growing wild alongside the roads in Provence; of the seaweedy, salty, rocky ozonic air on the ocean after a storm.

sweetlife To receive such a comment from you is particularly thrilling, and I'm very happy that you enjoyed it. I owe you a special debt of gratitude for encouraging me to greet my violet hatred head on and see where it would take me. And, as Dr. Seuss said, the places I've gone... I haven't tried Vert Violette yet but who knows... I never thought I'd even like half the things that I've learned to love through these excavations.

I once had a pot of live african violets for a while when I lived in Austria. (They were given to me as a gift.) They did surprisingly well (considering my blackest black thumb) but then all of a sudden one day they just gave up the ghost. Which probably just fed my hatred of violets further. I don't remember them having any smell at all though. I'd love to get the name of that nursery from you and see if I can go there and invoke the cilia-freezing spirit from a willing Parma plant.

I have been working on a violet perfume for awhile now. I love the smell of violets. and think them drop dead sexy. Complex and electric. Naughty and nice all at the same time.
A fragrance of violets need not be old fashioned, powdery or overly sweet.
Hopefully by putting a contemporary spin on an old idea, we will change some of the perceptions.
Love that poem too.
Liz

Liz I'm really looking forward to Domino, particularly because I feel I finally have a "way in" to violets that just wasn't there before. All this week I've been retesting violets (Lipstick Rose, DSH Violetta di Murano, and others) and am finding the process so much richer and more exciting. As soon as you have it online, a sample will find its way to my shopping cart. Luca Turin echoed your thoughts on bringing back violets in The Secret of Scent (page 62):

"Violet smells are rare in perfumes nowadays...a victim of their own success [in an earlier generation]. Such is the Biblical curse visited on over-exposure that people whose parents are too young to have smelled the original violet fragrances still find the smell cheap, which it isn't. Its day will come back, probably soon."

Yes, I agree. I have that book also. I like the way Luca approaches perfume. He doesn't romanticize, or politicize it. Just the facts mam. Arctander wrote much in the same way, minus Lucas dry humor.
Years ago I raised Parma Violets. I kept them indoors in window boxes. But unfortunately my cats liked them too, and were always chewing on them and pulling the little darlings out of their pots and dragging them around the house.
It is from that smell, and memory that I have been working from. I am tempted to try growing them again, (the violets). Because they are so lovely. But they don’t all smell exactly the same.
Not having the botanical names handy, there are several varieties and colors.
The potted plant African Violet, has no smell to speak of. And I believe that most folks, when thinking of violets are picturing those. Or those ubiquitous ground cover violets that grow wild here in the US. They have no smell either.

Wow, What a photo!

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